Curse

NightStalkerXT · Jun 25, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Ok I am in Ascalon City looking to buy Parchment. I advertise for 50g each. Then someone says it goes for 75-100g. Well that is just plain old stupid! Dont people know how to do math?

Here is the break down:

Using Vendors:
150g=10 wood (thats 75g for 5 wood) 75g
20g (cost to make 1 parchment from crafter) +20g
Total Cost 95g

Why would I pay 100 gold (the top end of the stated price in game)

It gets better.

Using the Economy:
100g=10wood (thats 50g for 5 wood) 50g
20g (cost to make 1 parchment from crafter) +20g
Total Cost 70g

So would someone tell me WHY ON EARTH WOULD I PAY 75-100g FOR SOMETHING I CAN GET FOR 70g!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If someone wants to ask 60-65g each thats cool. It's called bartering

Thats a prime example of why I don't buy from players. They want more for what they have to sell but don't want to offer crap for what you have to sell.
I would just as soon use the vendors to buy stuff as opposed to dealing with that kind of stupidity!!

Dragonkin · Jun 25, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09

People are greedy, and not everyone has such a head for numbers that you do, or simply can't be bothered the work out how much it'd cost if they bought it from various sources.

Think about it, your in ascalon city which is full of people new to the game who don't know the prices of items, people can sell any old junk for a jacked up price and the new people wouldn't know they'd just been royally ripped off.

Snipe Kan · Jun 25, 2005, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by NightStalkerXT

Ok I am in Ascalon City looking to buy Parchment. I advertise for 50g each. Then someone says it goes for 75-100g. Well that is just plain old stupid! Dont people know how to do math?

So would someone tell me WHY ON EARTH WOULD I PAY 75-100g FOR SOMETHING I CAN GET FOR 70g

i got a question 5g... isent really a HUGE difference considering you would have to do all that buying wood n stuff yourself when u can just buy the parchment for 5 more gold... take the 5 gold as "labour"

What Now Homie · Jun 25, 2005, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Well, yes, it DOES cost 70g to CRAFT parchment, but it also takes TIME. And, as everyone has heard, time=money. You pay extra to get the parchment instantly, instead of buying all the materials, traveling to crafter, then crafting. Thats what I see. Thanks

~What Now Homie

EDIT: So, I would say that you can pay AT LEAST 5-10 gold more for each parchment. As the poster above me stated, labor costs.

ManadartheHealer · Jun 25, 2005, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by Snipe Kan

i got a question 5g... isent really a HUGE difference considering you would have to do all that buying wood n stuff yourself when u can just buy the parchment for 5 more gold... take the 5 gold as "labour"

If you buy that parchment that costs 5 gold extra 200 times, you have just wasted a plat in gold because you are too lazy to run from Sardelac Sanitarium and turn your own wood into parchment

Edit: This is assuming you already have wood (I have more than 400 wood planks in storage

). If you don't already have the wood, then buying would be the best option (even if it costs 5 gold more)

Loviatar · Jun 25, 2005, 07:14 PM // 19:14

[QUOTE=NightStalkerXT]Ok

If someone wants to ask 60-65g each thats cool. It's called bartering

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i love it

it is allright to barter as long as you can buy it cheaper than the vendor but heavens to betsy if they should ask more than the vendor

instead of yelling because someone wont sell it below cost or wants to make a small profit just go visit the vendor and quit complaining about it

Snipe Kan · Jun 25, 2005, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

If you buy that parchment that costs 5 gold extra 200 times, you have just wasted a plat in gold because you are too lazy to run from Sardelac Sanitarium and turn your own wood into parchment

Edit: This is assuming you already have wood (I have more than 400 wood planks in storage

). If you don't already have the wood, then buying would be the best option (even if it costs 5 gold more)

exactly but there for take it like i said they are doing that for you, so if u wanna do it yourself to save 5 gold GREAT if not pay the extra 5, anyways what if u only need say 10 parchment 5x10 =50 :O! then its only losing 50g instead of 1 Plat. hence theres my point

Dreamsmith · Jun 25, 2005, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by NightStalkerXT

Dont people know how to do math?

Generally, no...

Loviatar · Jun 25, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

Generally, no...

but you have to agree that there is nothing lacking in their self esteam

NightStalkerXT · Jun 25, 2005, 07:26 PM // 19:26

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

If you buy that parchment that costs 5 gold extra 200 times, you have just wasted a plat in gold because you are too lazy to run from Sardelac Sanitarium and turn your own wood into parchment

Exactly my point. And I can find other things to spend a plat on.

Loviatar · Jun 25, 2005, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by NightStalkerXT

Exactly my point. And I can find other things to spend a plat on.

out of honest curiosity do you buy enough to actually make a difference?

and if you do are you reselling to people to make a profit or what could actually take 200 parchment?

salja Wachi · Jun 25, 2005, 07:36 PM // 19:36

lots of things take a ton of parchment man to make an all necro tattoo armor takes 100's of rolls so do others

NightStalkerXT · Jun 25, 2005, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

out of honest curiosity do you buy enough to actually make a difference?

and if you do are you reselling to people to make a profit or what could actually take 200 parchment?

Monk Tatoo's take that much for the Droknars Forge Armor. And no I don't resell it.

Aug · Jun 25, 2005, 07:50 PM // 19:50

The Droknar's Forge Monk tat armor takes like 200-250 parchment. It's kinda crazy. But it's only 800 gold, not 1.5k.

As for the topic... if it costs 70g to do all that work yourself, you should consider getting it for 75g to be a bargain. Or else you should go craft it and stop complaining.

NightStalkerXT · Jun 25, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Aug

The Droknar's Forge Monk tat armor takes like 200-250 parchment. It's kinda crazy. But it's only 800 gold, not 1.5k.

ummm 200 parchment 800g? I will gladly buy 200 parchment from you for 800 gold!

BTW lets do a break down for you:

75-100g for Each Parchment from rip off people:...75g.......100g
times 200............................................... .....x200ea...x200ea
Total Cost.............................................. ...15000g...20000g

Using the wood Purchase Then Crafter example of my original post.

70g total cost to make each parchment...............70g
times 200 parchment needed...........................x200ea
Total Cost.............................................. ....14000g

Thats a 1 Plat savings from the 75g each and a 6 Plat savings from the 100g each.

Now lets add something here: Say I barter for 65g each that gives me a 1 Plat savings from crafting the stuff myself and the person that found the parchment made 65g proffit. With the current way of things what you may have is people crafting it just to sell it for the 5-30g proffit. Thats a waste of their time and they can keep it because I would just as soon craft it myself as to OVER PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSES STUPID GREED!

so 800g!?! where did you get that number not to mention where did you come up with 1.5K?

Eclair · Jun 25, 2005, 08:33 PM // 20:33

You can sell parchment to the materials trader for 100 gold =P

ManadartheHealer · Jun 25, 2005, 08:34 PM // 20:34

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Originally Posted by NightStalkerXT

the person that found the parchment

To my knowledge, you cannot simply find parchment. You must aquire wood and then craft the parchment (although I suspect you may be able to find it naturally somewhere, probably by salvaging the right thing; that's how you find steel, charcoal, etc.)

Loviatar · Jun 25, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by NightStalkerXT

Monk Tatoo's take that much for the Droknars Forge Armor. And no I don't resell it.

thank you for the information.

i havent made a monk or anything who uses parchment so i did not know.

it seems a bit unreasonable to me to need that much.

when they craft it what do they do with it?
no...on second thought i dont want to know

AeroLion · Jun 25, 2005, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by NightStalkerXT

so 800g!?! where did you get that number not to mention where did you come up with 1.5K?

He's talking about the cost of forging monk tattoos in Droknar's, not the cost of materials for said tattoo. Normal armor costs 1.5k to forge but the tats cost 800g. So he's trying to say the number of parchments it takes is why it costs less than normal armor to forge.

Gun Giddy · Jun 25, 2005, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Originally Posted by NightStalkerXT

so 800g!?! where did you get that number not to mention where did you come up with 1.5K?

800g is the price of the tatto armor and 1.5k is the price of the other armors.

Guess I should have refreashed before posting